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Read The Sadness of Christ by Thomas More this Lent, great preparation for the Passion. Happy Easter!

>>12
Amen and amen

>>70
every time you read of Christs pain always make sure to counter balance it against Christs joy, Resurrection and Promise of Salvation in Love for the Penitent.

>>229
blessed post. amen. never forget why we and He suffer and why we rejoice.

Technically anything under 300 pages is considered a novella

>>99
It's true. Melville and Dickens just ripped off Carlyle.

>>122

George Eliot, Borges and Nabokov too

>>99
Started it and the first two chapters feel like a long drawn out preface. It is a little funny but I don't know if I'll stick around for the rest. Probably give it a few more chapters before I drop it.

How are these charts made? I'd like to make some myself for personal use but I don't even know what program is used or what the procedure is

>>221
Idem! I've been doing basic charts in Microsoft paint. However, I'd love to know how the more complex ones are made.

>>222
Gimp probably

>>221
>>222
Use Scribus. Avoid raster image editors as those don't resize well.

>>221
I make mine in Powerpoint and export as image instead of pdf

>>160
That's correct. God is wounded in a sense.
His creative act of Schöpfung is his attempt to cope with this disturbance.
An attempt at healing his wound.
Who or what inflicted this trauma?
Has he brought it upon himself? Who knows..

>>159
>It was revealed to me in a dream.
>God might be eternal now but this does not mean he always has been.

Are you a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?

The Prophet Joseph Smith said in the King Follett Discourse:
>First, God himself, who sits enthroned in yonder heavens, is a man like unto one of yourselves, that is the great secret.
>If the vail was rent to-day, and the great God, who holds this world in its orbit, and upholds all things by his power;
>if you were to see him to-day, you would see him in all the person, image and very form as a man;
>for Adam was created in the very fashion and image of God;
>Adam received instruction, walked, talked and conversed with him, as one man talkes and communes with another.
>…We have imagined that God was God from all eternity.
>These are incomprehensible ideas to some, but they are the simple and first principles of the gospel, to know for a certainty the character of God, that we may converse with him as one man with another, and that God himself; the Father of us all dwelt on an earth the same as Jesus Christ himself did, and I will show it from the Bible.
>…what did Jesus say?
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>>150
It would seem that it is the Demiurge that is a reflection of our own trauma made into a divine image. God himself is the very totality of all things, and therefore does not have the one-sided, limited nature that would be necessary to be subject to trauma. However, as limited, one-sided beings we humans may look to the figure of Christ as the exemplar of how we ought to handle our distress, that is, to be willing to embrace it on for the glory of the Almighty.

>>162
>An attempt at healing his wound.
Wounds are commonly accepted to be Yonic… you do realise what you just said about God.

>>214
Makes sense if you think about it.
Associations with the spear of Longinus piercing Jesus’ side also arise.

A Happy Death is another good summer read by Camus. But if you're looking for something more obscure, try David Kalakaua's The Legends and Myths of Hawaii. Its a fantastic high gothic collection of Hawaiian myths and history of the Island Kingdown, collected and written by their last King shortly before the downfall of the kingdom and annexation by America.

stern's other men's daughters or thompson's f&l:lv

I once read The Leopard while on a scorching hot vacation in Italy (albeit not Sicily) and it did add to the mood. Also if you do some research on the topic all the street names start making sense (they're all called either Via Garibaldi, Mazzini, Cavour or Vittorio Emmanuele, in every single vilage).

nice music. reminds me of the Thangorodrim, one of my all time favorites. https://thangorodrimsynth.bandcamp.com/album/dagor-bragalloch-remaster.

will definitely look into this guy. I'm always interested to look at some new German language authors.

>>209
>Which book is your personal favorite and why?
I've gotta go with Rumo, mostly for sentimental reasons and because I could identify with him the most as a character.
The epic division of the story into two parts Obenwelt & Untenwelt captivated me the most, the coming-of-age-narrative during my formative years, the characters (Rala, Smeik, Nachtigaller and his Lovecraft arc, Grinzold & Löwenzahn, Gaunab, the Blutschinks, General Ticktack, … man I fucking love this book) and overall the genuine creativity and immersive worldbuilding.
Truly vom Orm durchströmt. I consider it almost a perfect story.
City of Dreaming Books is a close second though.
Then for a long time nothing, then Ensel and Krete, the 13 1/2 Lives and the Schrecksenmeister.
The Island of a Thousand Lighthouses was a pleasant surprise recently.
A Wild Ride Through the Night deserves a honorable mention even if it's not Zamonia.
The fable book was okish but I didn't finish reading it.
The rest can (and should) be safely ignored in my opinion.

>>208
PSA: No fucking threads with some shitty topic xyz and then a “books on xyz” so that it can pass as literature related. It's low effort, low IQ posts like this that have ruined /lit/. Shilling isn't the problem per se, but at least make some effort.

>>89
>>89
Ive been so bored I actually started reading again. Imagine.

>>89
litizens need a place to go

>>89
I conducted a series of discourses with my father. He's only going to be alive for 19 years, so I guess we better fit that theory in now.

>>123
Have you thought about writing about your family? That's something I often come back to. The dramatization of what is subtly out of the ordinary that characterizes your relations to friends and family. Trying to dramatize and literally process what has actual value to me: attachment and care. How do you phrase that, how do you structure a story who's chief subject is the perception of the ordinary and what is subtly out-of-the-ordinary but not quite extraordinary.

>>185
Look thanks for the compliment, you probably know me from an irc Board. (yes a board).

You're gesturing at Drama. What kind of story do you have to write? Problem play? Brechtian anti-catharsis tragedy of the value-form's self abnegation? Comedy? Guignol?

My relationship with my father is regulatable, so doesn't "exceed" the social norm requiring a play to teach us how to regulate such a Passion of Affect into regularity and sociability. Plus if I knew how to regulate disaffected proletarian academics *I WOULD DISREGULATE*: aRISE you workers from your SLUMbers….

So whaddcha wanna do: rewrite me Merchant of Venice with Shylock as a Tragic Hero forcibly elevated low to high by renouncing Judaism for the love of christ. YOU MAY NOT REWRITE ANY PRIOR ACTS. YOU MUST PRODUCE ACT5:2 5:3 5:4 and 5:5. By 5:5 Shylock must have voluntarily reconverted to Christianity due to a flaw inherent in him and be raised despite his will to an end that was fated. YOU MAY NOT MAKE SHAKESPEARE'S VOICE CALVINIST.
If you can complete that then we can talk about making a non-Lyric moment between my father and I.

Is Helen not framed as a stand in for beauty, that is Aphrodite herself? A sort of avatar for desire. It's not just some cultural archetyping, I think this goes back to the basis of what is foundational to Greek metaphysics (the mere sensing and being we find in Parmenides and also in Aristotle) and probably Indo-European myth and metaphor.
Desire always moves on, it never stays, and Those-Who-Desire would follow it anywhere. That's probably the core of the tale. The collaborative nature which designed the Illias and Odyssey shouldn't be neglected there. The Illias and Odyssey were compiled to be different works. In a narrative sense a coupling in the most literal sense of one with the other would fail. What is desired is desired because of those who desire, what is lost is trying to be found. These tales are ancient and at the very root of Indo-European tales. It's probably that simple, while trying to deliver good entertainment by bards stitching hexameters together to make these tales.

To answer your question, and from what I think you're pretty close to the answer yourself, though Penelope would've stayed with Menelaos, he would have left, and Odysseus would not have journeyed home for Helen, for the desire or lust for beauty. He journeys home - for his home. The very grammar of our language has retained this.

The Odyssey is an epic for the women in the Audience. After Odysseus conquers the One Eyed Impulse by strangling it, he encounters woman after woman.

*Each woman is the same woman is the listening woman.*

So Penelope is faithful to Odysseus because she's 10-15 years older than him (Robert Graves _White Goddess), and also because she is every other woman.

It is the same fucking system as East Enders of Neighbours or Degrassi Junior high: the woman's abject status as a non-individual means she can fantasise every position of the woman as in Jane Austen.

To summarise: Greek Epic and Drama is chick fic. Real readers read nice straight stuff like YHWHism. File attached: YHWH and his wife's penis.

>>45
Didn't know Tolkien's ghost posted here.

>>35
Why do you feel the need to use so many commas? Half the commas in your OP are not needed.

>>108
I'm ESL. I don't get English punctuation. Some people use a lot of commas, some people don't use commas at all.
My native language (Brazilian portuguese) uses a lot of commas.
I try to - pepper and salt them, everywhere, to seem intellectual;

>>109

Oh, hola, hermano americano. La literatura latinoamericana requiere más individuos como tú. Yo, por otro lado, todavía me mantengo como un pasivo consumidor de literatura, pero en mí se gesta el instinto de crear.
¿Algún consejo? (Por cierto, perdón por comunicarme en español.)

>>109
Your comma usage was actually perfect, which, ironically, offends a lot of younger English speakers, particularly Americans, who no longer understand clauses and the syntax thereof.